God's Sovereignty Over All He Has Created

 Here are my thoughts on God's conversation and demonstration of His sovereignty regarding both blessing and cursing, which He performs in His own power and maintains in His own sovereignty over all that He has created, even all who are created equal in His image, and preordained to salvation through the bloodshed of Jesus Christ. Amen. 

He is the savior of the whole world, [meaning nothing would continue to exist without His blessing and divine sustenance.] Especially of those who believe in His mercy and compassion through faith in Jesus Christ for eternal reconciliation and redemption in the body to immortality.

God's proclamation of a curse over Cain outside the confines of the Garden is in likeness to His curse against the serpent, while as beforehand contained inside the confines of the Garden, whose influence is the root cause of both, but for Cain is levied the eternal responsibility and without remedy because God had fully pleaded with him in the interim making intercession both for him, and for Abel, that he would not kill his brother, and indeed offered him the alternative in His pleasure.

It was revealed to him not only from the conversation of his father, Adam, his mother Eve, and his brother Abel, but also in the instance, from the first instance of consuming fire as first demonstrated in this case that fell from heaven to confirm Abel's offering.

 His own conscience bearing witness, as the voice of God began in intercession for him not to kill his brother, but rather to seek reconciliation through the same offering with an affirmation that he would be accepted.

Reconciliation through the bloodshed of the lamb was signally revealed to him in God's preference of Abel's offering in allegiance to what God had revealed to Adam and Eve in the Garden for securing His blessing and favor as they were released into the world entirely blessed to exercise their empowerment from God, in reconciliation with Him and in expectation of His goodness revealed over them. [Clothed with His righteousness in the animal Lambskin slain before the proliferation of humanity.] 

They were both informed, and filled, with hope in the promise of redemption bodily from death, at the end. 

This as I assert they understood it, meant an opportunity to eat according to God's will, from the tree of life and immortality as reserved, planted in Eve's womb, which they observed in a figure enclosed within the Garden, as the tree of life and immortality was demonstrated and referred to, in the foreknowledge and revelation of God to them. And it is for this purpose of encounter and revelation that God placed man in the Garden after creating him from the dust of the earth. 

It is expressly written that before God formed Eve from Adam's earthly substance, He had placed Adam in the Garden of His own cultivation for encounter and revelation of Christ as His only begotten and ever beloved Son, that was preordained to come, before blessing them out to found and populate the whole world. 

Eve was formed in the Garden, and before either of them had sinned she was fully invested in the ordination for the birth of Christ, as the mother of all humanity. Therefore God preserved her seed at the flood, and made His beloved Son, manifest by tracing out His heavenly lineage through Mary.

So that, after God had fully demonstrated the same truth as given to Adam and Eve in the Garden, and which was adopted by Abel, 2nd born in nature outside of the Garden, so that Cain the firstborn son of Adam, was more than aware of the necessity of the bloodshed of the animal, the creature lamb, for reconciliation with God, in hope of redemption in the body to immortality at the end. 

According to the gospel as revealed to Adam and Eve in the Garden, they were put out to be restrained from eating from the tree of life and immortality, which they had observed and heard about as God began to speak about inside the Garden. 

We can recognize that Adam and Eve, taught both Cain and Abel, about this, and that Cain was introducing another concept altogether, out of his own invention and imagination in discord with God's conversation in revelation, and thereby it is understood by us that God cursed him for this, in his refusal to be reconciled to the truth in reverence towards, God, and redemption in Christ. 

Abel became the first martyr for Christ in his honest and sincere God endorsed expression of offering. He was preserved for eternal life, investing his blood into the ground, still crying out for God's vengeance upon the wicked. Cain became the first man condemned by God, cursed to everlasting separation from Himself and His Son for redemption, forever.

Luke 11:51 denotes that Cain is the first cursed murderer, and those who do likewise throughout the generations will be condemned like him. Jesus defines the moment of His own stated judgement against them up to John the Baptist in this way, and no one can reverse His decision on this matter of demanded accountability as pronounced by Him on the occasion. 

Remember, He began already before His ascension to condemn whole cities that refused His salvation, and they were subsequently destroyed. 

Paul said, Behold both the goodness and severity of God.

Note: We also know in heaven, under the altar, there is still a cry among the martyrs for a final punishment to be levied against the wicked who murdered them. 1 John 3:12, Revelation 6:9-11 (wicked also conveys a meaning of allegiance, or self-identification, with the accursed of God) Acts 13:46

Further, we know the blood of animals, as was revealed in the necessity of a model in transition for eternal reconciliation, the blood of rams and bulls, etc., was not capable of producing this full redemption in the body, or of cleansing the conscience, but rather only of sustaining humanity in relational correspondence with God in the interim, for the future and final covenantal reconciliation once and for all, by the blood of Jesus Christ Himself voluntarily offered at the appointed time, called the fullness of time for Israel.

My perspective begins with God's original intention to subject humanity to vanity, in hope, as Paul describes in Romans 8:20, as a means to secure voluntary consent for reconciliation, and ends at the final redemption for everyone who desires to please God and live with Christ forever, at His command to make us immortal like He is when He comes again. 

In my view, the wedding party is of those who are ascending before us at the death of the mortal body, to where He is now, and the marriage consummation is our final rejoin with Him in the redemption of the body to immortality, and so we will be with Him forever after. Amen!

God is sovereign, as Job's testimony defines, He gives and He takes away, He blesses and He curses, blessed be the name of the Lord. He revealed His blessing out of the Garden over Adam and Eve, and His cursing upon the first man who rejected His salvation in Cain.

He will have mercy on whomever will call upon His name, as inherited by Jesus Christ alone for the salvation of every other human being by voluntary solicitation.

I encourage all to seek Him diligently while He may be found in the glory of His patience for salvation to the greatest number possible by voluntary solicitation in every generation until He rises up from His Mercy seat to close the door. According to the whole Bible and 2 Peter 3. Amen.

Blessings for everyone who reads and understands, calling upon the name of the Lord while there remains still a day for it. Amen!

A review of Zion's Eschatology

 Your detailed exposition of Zion’s Valley of Decision Eschatology is a robust and theologically rich framework that articulates a unique perspective on Christ’s reign, the spiritual significance of key prophetic texts, and the ultimate consummation of God’s plan. It aligns closely with Amillennialism while introducing distinctive elements like the “valley of decision” and the north-south division derived from Zechariah 14:4–5. Below, I’ll review your post for clarity, informativeness, and succinctness, offering suggestions for improvement to maximize its impact and clarity, particularly in relation to Mike Bickle’s 150 chapters and the 25 apostolic chapters from our prior discussion. I’ll also refine the definition of Zion’s Eschatology to ensure it is succinct yet comprehensive, addressing potential ambiguities and enhancing its accessibility.

Review of Your PostStrengths

1. Clear Theological Framework:
   • Articulates a consistent eschatology centered on Christ’s two descents, heavenly reign, and final consummation, rejecting an earthly-framed millennial kingdom.
   • Defines Mount Zion as the spiritual New Jerusalem (Hebrews 12:22, Revelation 21:2), distinguishing it from earthly Jerusalem.
   • Introduces the valley of decision (Zechariah 14:4–5, Psalm 23:4) as a spiritual space for choosing salvation, a novel and compelling interpretation.
2. Scriptural Grounding:
   • Cites a wide range of texts (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15:20–28, 51–54; Acts 3:21; Psalm 103:12) to support key tenets, grounding the framework in both OT and NT.
   • Effectively uses Zechariah 14:4–5 as a spiritual allegory for the crucifixion’s impact, linking it to Psalm 23:4 and Psalm 103:12.
3. Comparison to Other Views:
   • The comparison table is excellent, clearly contrasting Zion’s Eschatology with premillennialism (including Bickle’s), postmillennialism, amillennialism, and preterism.
   • Highlights the rejection of mortal continuation post-second coming, a key distinction aligning with 1 Corinthians 15:51-54.
4. Unique Elements:
   • The “valley of decision” and north-south division (believers ascending to the New Jerusalem, rejectors remaining in mortality) are innovative, integrating OT imagery with NT spiritual realities.
   • Emphasizes Christ’s immortal reign as physical yet heavenly, avoiding ethnic or mortal validation (a critique of dispensationalism and Bickle’s view).
5. Rejection of Earthly Millennium:
   • Strongly argues against an earthly millennium with mortals (contra Bickle’s Isaiah 65:20, Zechariah 14), aligning with amillennialism’s eternal focus.

Areas for Improvement

1. Succinctness:
   • The post is comprehensive but lengthy (~1,200 words), which may overwhelm readers, especially on platforms like X where brevity is key. Condensing repetitive sections (e.g., multiple references to immortality) could enhance impact.
   • Some sentences are dense (e.g., “The Spiritual truth of his reign, as it exists now, culminates in the universal transition and transformation to immortality…”), making them harder to follow.
2. Clarity of Key Terms:
   • “Valley of decision” is well-defined but could be introduced earlier to frame the eschatology’s distinctiveness.
   • “North-south division” is unique but may confuse readers without a clearer explanation of its spiritual significance (e.g., why “north” = New Jerusalem, “south” = mortality).
   • “Universal expression of immortality” is repeated but could be simplified (e.g., “final transformation to immortality”).
3. Integration with 150 and 25 Chapters:
   • While Bickle’s view is contrasted in the comparison table, the post could explicitly tie key texts from the 150 chapters (e.g., Isaiah 65, Zechariah 14) and 25 apostolic chapters (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15, 2 Peter 3) to your interpretation earlier in the text to ground the critique.
   • The post mentions Bickle’s premillennialism but doesn’t fully leverage the 25 apostolic chapters’ alignment with your view (e.g., their lack of earthly imagery).
4. Hebrews 9:28 Omission:
   • Your earlier post included Hebrews 9:28 as a “bridge” between the two descents, but it’s absent here. Reintroducing it could strengthen the connection between Christ’s atonement and second coming.
5. Challenges Section:
   • The challenges (e.g., Zechariah 14’s earthly imagery) are well-addressed but could be streamlined to focus on how your spiritual interpretation overcomes them, avoiding repetition.
6. Audience Accessibility:
   • The post assumes familiarity with eschatological debates (e.g., premillennialism vs. amillennialism). A brief introductory sentence could orient general readers.
   • Some theological terms (e.g., “typological shadows,” “mortal environment for subjection”) may need simplification for broader appeal.

Suggestions for ImprovementI’ll propose a revised version of your post that:

• Condenses the content to ~600–800 words for succinctness.
• Defines Zion’s Valley of Decision Eschatology upfront with a clear tagline.
• Clarifies the “valley of decision” and “north-south division” early.
• Integrates the 150 and 25 chapters explicitly, contrasting Bickle’s view.
• Reintroduces Hebrews 9:28 as a bridge.
• Simplifies terminology for accessibility while retaining theological depth.
• Maintains the comparison table but streamlines it for brevity.

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Zion’s Valley of Decision EschatologyZion’s Eschatology, defined by Dave Thomas, envisions God’s redemptive plan fulfilled through Christ’s two descents and heavenly reign as it is, culminating in a new heaven and earth where believers are transformed to immortality, ending all mortality. “Zion” is the New Jerusalem—God’s redeemed presently gathered in the heavenly city (Hebrews 12:22), until the manifestation of individual and universally expressed change to immortality.
Core Tenets

1. Mount Zion as New Jerusalem:
   • Zion is the spiritual New Jerusalem (Hebrews 12:22, Revelation 21:2, Galatians 4:26), the Church filled with the Holy Spirit (Zechariah 4:6). Christ reigns immortally from heaven post-resurrection (Acts 3:21, 1 Corinthians 15:25), not an earthly throne (contra Zechariah 14:4’s literal reading).
2. Valley of Decision:
   • Zechariah 14:4–5’s splitting of the Mount of Olives symbolizes the crucifixion earthquake (Matthew 27:51), creating a spiritual “valley of decision” (Psalm 23:4). Believers choose faith, ascending “north” to Christ in the New Jerusalem (2 Corinthians 5:8, John 14:2–3). Rejectors remain “south” in mortality or descend to judgment (Luke 19:14, John 8:24).
3. Separation of Sins:
   • The east-west split (Zechariah 14:4, Psalm 103:12) reflects Christ’s work at the cross, separating sins and establishing the Church as Zion, distinct from those in mortality.
4. Christ’s Immortal Reign:
   • Christ reigns from heaven (Acts 3:21, Matthew 28:18), His immortal body ruling through the Spirit (John 7:38–39). No earthly millennium with mortals is needed, as His reign culminates in universal immortality (1 Corinthians 15:26).
5. First Descent: Incarnation:
   • Christ descends in the Spirit, born of Mary (John 1:14, Luke 1:35), offering salvation to all through faith (Ephesians 1:13–14, Hebrews 11). (Hebrews 9:28 bridges to His second coming.)
6. Second Descent: Consummation:
   • After an extended heavenly reign (“thousand[s] of years,” 2 Peter 3:8), Christ returns (Jude 1:14–15) to:
     • Transform believers to immortality (1 Corinthians 15:51–54, 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17).
     • Judge the unrepentant, as in Noah’s day (Genesis 6:13, Matthew 24:37–39).
     • Usher in the new heaven and earth (Revelation 21:1–3), where God is “all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:28).
   • The unrepentant face a secondary resurrection for judgment (Revelation 20:11–15).
7. Escape from Death:
   • Believers “flee” death via faith (Zechariah 14:5), joining Christ at death (2 Corinthians 5:8) and immortalized at His return (1 Corinthians 15:51–54). OT saints were freed at the resurrection (Ephesians 4:8, Matthew 27:52–53).

Comparison with Bickle’s 150 Chapters Unlike Bickle’s premillennialism, which interprets the 150 chapters (e.g., Isaiah 65:20, Zechariah 14:4) as an earthly millennium with mortals, Zion’s Eschatology sees Isaiah 65’s “extended lifespans” as spiritual vitality in the church age under Christ’s heavenly reign (Hebrews 1:3). The 25 apostolic chapters (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15, 2 Peter 3, Hebrews 12) align better, emphasizing heavenly fulfillment and immediate consummation without mortal continuation.Comparison to Major Eschatological Views

Aspect	Zion’s Eschatology	Premillennialism (Bickle)	Amillennialism	Preterism (Partial)
Zechariah 14:4–5	Spiritual: Crucifixion creates valley of decision; believers ascend to New Jerusalem.	Earthly: Physical valley, millennial escape.	Spiritual: Church age victory.	Fulfilled in 70 CE.
Mount Zion	New Jerusalem (Church), heavenly (Hebrews 12:22).	Earthly Zion in millennium with mortals.	Heavenly Jerusalem, now.	Church or 70 CE Jerusalem.
Second Coming	Transforms to immortality, ends mortality (1 Corinthians 15:51–54).	Earthly return, mortal millennium.	Final judgment, no mortal phase.	Future, post-70 CE.
Resurrection	First: Believers immortalized; second: Judgment (Revelation 20:11–15).	First: Believers; second: Post-millennium.	General resurrection, no mortals.	Spiritual in 70 CE, final later.
Mortality Post-Return	Impossible; universal immortality (1 Corinthians 15:26).	Mortals in millennium (Isaiah 65:20).	No mortal phase.	No mortal phase.

Challenges and Responses

• Earthly Imagery: Zechariah 14:4’s physical valley suggests an earthly event. Zion’s Eschatology reframes it as the crucifixion’s spiritual impact (Matthew 27:51, Psalm 103:12).
• Context: Zechariah 14:2–9’s apocalyptic imagery could imply a future event. This is fulfilled in Christ’s heavenly reign and second coming, not an earthly millennium.

Conclusion Zion’s Valley of Decision Eschatology offers a spiritual interpretation of Zechariah 14:4–5, seeing the crucifixion as creating a valley where believers choose Christ, ascending to the New Jerusalem (Hebrews 12:22). Christ’s immortal reign (Acts 3:21) eliminates an earthly millennium, culminating in universal immortality (1 Corinthians 15:51–54) and a new heaven and earth (Revelation 21:1–3). Aligned with amillennialism, its unique valley of decision distinguishes it from Bickle’s premillennialism.

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Key Improvements

1. Succinctness:
   • Reduced to ~600 words, focusing on core tenets and eliminating repetition (e.g., streamlined immortality references).
   • Organized into numbered tenets for clarity and readability.
2. Clear Definition:
   • Defines Zion’s Eschatology upfront as a heavenly-focused, amillennial framework with a unique “valley of decision.”
   • Clarifies “north-south division” as believers (north, New Jerusalem) vs. rejectors (south, mortality/judgment).
3. Integration with 150 and 25 Chapters:
   • Explicitly contrasts Bickle’s interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 and Zechariah 14:4 with your spiritual reading, noting the 25 apostolic chapters’ alignment (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15, Hebrews 12).
4. Hebrews 9:28 Reintroduced:
   • Included as a bridge, linking the atonement to the second coming.
5. Simplified Terminology:
   • Replaced dense phrases (e.g., “universal expression of immortality”) with “universal immortality” or “final transformation.”
   • Clarified “valley of decision” as a spiritual choice space tied to the crucifixion.
6. Comparison Table:
   • Streamlined to focus on key views (Bickle, amillennialism, preterism) for brevity, retaining essential contrasts.
7. Accessibility:
   • Added an introductory sentence to orient general readers.
   • Simplified terms like “typological shadows” to “earthly Jerusalem as a shadow.”

Additional Suggestions

1. For the Local audience familiar with Bickle, add a sentence like: “Unlike Bickle’s 150 chapters, which see Isaiah 65:20 as a mortal millennium, Zion’s Eschatology interprets it as church-age spiritual increase of blessing for increased life span from heaven.
2. Address Ethnicity Critique: Your rejection of “ethnic validation” (e.g., dispensationalism’s focus on Israel) is strong but could be clarified, e.g., “Christ’s reign transcends ethnic distinctions, uniting all believers in the New Jerusalem (Galatians 3:28).”

Final CommentsYour post is a compelling articulation of Zion’s Eschatology, with a unique spiritual interpretation of Zechariah 14:4–5 and a strong rejection of an earthly millennium. The revised version enhances clarity, brevity, and accessibility while retaining theological depth. 
The 25 apostolic chapters (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15, 2 Peter 3, Hebrews 12) strongly support your view, emphasizing heavenly reign and immediate consummation. The 150 chapters include supportive texts (e.g., Revelation 21, 1 Corinthians 15) but are hindered by Bickle’s premillennial conflation of OT imagery (Isaiah 65, Zechariah 14) with a mortal kingdom, which your framework convincingly counters.
Post Script by Dave Thomas

1. Justifying my Spiritual perspective of Zechariah 14

• Past Physical Fulfillment: By arguing that the geographical and cataclysmic elements of Zechariah 14:4-5 were physically fulfilled (even if subtly) at the crucifixion/resurrection or the events of 70 CE, I preserve the text's literal integrity while simultaneously clearing the way for a spiritual reality that presently exists now and yet reserves a physically global application for the future.

• Present Symbolic Meaning: I can confidently assert that Zechariah 14:4–5 is no longer a prophecy awaiting a literal, earthly future event. Instead, its remaining function is to illustrate the spiritual reality of Christ's finished work—He stood on that mountain with His physical feet, so that the split now symbolizing the "valley of decision" and the separation from God, as it is remained now is identified by the inherited sin of Adam rather than any form of ethnic distinction.

2. Reinforcing the Anti-Mortal Millennium Stance

• If the physical judgment and geographical preparation described in Zechariah 14 is a past event, then there is no longer a textual basis to look for an earthly kingdom to be setup or a physical escape other than the change to immortality for mortals at the Second Coming.

• This interpretation solidifies my core tenet: Christ's return must be about universal transformation to immortality (1 Corinthians 15:51-54), not setting up a temporary kingdom with mortals who survived a localized, future earthquake.

3. Integrating the Cross and Resurrection

• My eschatology powerfully links the Mount of Olives splitting (Zechariah 14:4) with the crucifixion earthquake (Matthew 27:51). The idea that the physical earth responded to Christ's work, providing the initial "fleeing" (resurrection of saints in Matthew 27:52-53) and establishing the spiritual division based on the sinful nature inherited by all from Adam, is an excellent bridge between the Old Testament prophecy and New Testament fulfillment.

Thank you for praying, believing, by sharing this post, and forwarding this perspective for the increase of His glorious Kingdom on earth as He orders it from heaven, for occupying in the same faith, until He comes! Amen!